[–]Rim_WorldVancouver is the Yeezy of cities -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (6 children), In BC, most nurses make more https://www.narcity.com/life/heres-how-much-a-nurse-is-getting-paid-per-year-by-province-in-canada. This list should also help people gain perspective. Why finding a nurse practitioner should get easier In most provinces, nurse practitioners are considered essential. Ask VancouverBC hiring 200 nurse practitioners and paying them 50% more per patient than family doctors (self.vancouver), You might have heard that the province is hiring 200 nurse practitioners and 200 family doctors to work on salary. good, my SO is thinking of becoming a NP, she's already a specialized Nurse. [–]bby_redditor 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children). The debt comes from the medical school, you get paid (not a lot) in residency so you really shouldn’t be incurring more debt at that point (although probably won’t be paying it off till you start practicing). Median salary: $64,906. Contrary to your belief, which seems to be that they are rifling through patients to make big bucks, they have been forced to push through as many as possible just to pay the bills and their wage. In this Article: NP vs. PA: Overview of Differences; Defining the Role of PAs and NPs Salary: $67.81/hr, and will be at $70.07 in June- and I have amazing benefits and a pension waiting for me at retirement. I literally make 2-3x as much now as I did in BC and I see 20-30 patients a day instead of the 50 I used to. I don't want a coffee date, I want 10mins of their time, not 3. Some of the doctors here are utterly diabolical, I had to spend more time and effort seeking a second opinion (and to veto) all because my family doctor said "no" to a Radiologist's recommendation, then lost my results and generically incompetent and doesn't want to do any real work, other than bill as many people as humanly possible. Use the search to figure out if something has already been posted/asked. Even with a masters degree, I don't think taxpayers should pay that much for a nurse practitioner. Doing tests outside of those contexts leads to either false positives or false negatives which a can both cause harm to the patient and more cost to the system. Nurses spend a lot of time learning about "energy fields and pan dimensionality". [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]chowchowchowder -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child). [–]yeungsoo 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (4 children). 4) Orthopedic Nurse Average Salary: $81,000. [–]RealTurbulentMooseAngry Loner 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). Its the tax revenues man. I'm sure some of them are great, but I have a feeling in the long run this strategy may actually end up costing more than less. And the whole Doctorate part is misleading, most of their courses are filler that don't address the above gaps. I think NPs can be great but a medical clinic operating without an MD isn't one I'd want to have to rely on. Like a doctor, a nurse practitioner can: NPs are paid between $48,000 and $98,000 in salary, plus benefits, compared to GPs, whose gross income averages $239,000, but who have to pay overhead out of that income. I see about ten people per shift give or take, so about one an hour. We only have so much time, energy, and resources. Users that derail topics of posts will have their posts removed with a warning. Something doesn't add up. [–]Yaspan 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (4 children). Ok, let's forget about the pissing match and pretend a nurse is equal to a doctor so then why are we paying the nurses more to do the same job? Unfortunately the midlevels who don't want independence and want more training are drowned out by their loud cocky coworkers. Also residency. I'm not hating on OTs. Seeing 50 patients a day is not the normal workflow in Canada or anywhere. It’s a tough job and balance is really important. Rather than stepping on NPs, maybe you should really look at why you are reacting like you are. I’m curious, because I feel weird asking my coworkers how much they make, but I really don’t know what the “average” salary is, or if what I’m making is on par with everyone else. ), When the ultrasound result is received, the staff puts the report in the patient's chart and then the doctor reviews the results. (This takes staff and doctor time. Anecdotal, I know. Again, where is your actual evidence of this? The typical tenure for a Nurse Practitioner is 1-3 years. [–]fettywap17388 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Depending on area, your income will be between 85-120k. People in tech or other jobs should not be staying late unpaid either. Wondering what provinces you are all from and how much an NP makes. Hi all, just curious about the salary discrepancy across Canada for Nurse practitioners. Or on the G+ group. Often the NPs in the community have relationships with these members of society. There is no need to be so territorial. Salary ranges can vary widely depending on many important factors, including education , certifications, additional skills, the number of years you have spent in your profession. If BC doctors have fewer patients, how are they the ones working to the point of burnout? If the behavior persists, these users are subject to being banned. Filter Ask Vancouver Small town BC is in desperate need of MDs and your unions response is to locate MDs in the lower mainland and encourage them to specialize, In a pay-to-play healthcare system, they could provide that for you. This is the problem with the BC system. When considering moving to Vancouver, please Google "thinking of moving to Vancouver" FIRST. Rural GP's are paid significantly more and are the reason the numbers say what they do in that article. Visiting Vancouver Page Hate speech including (but not limited to) racist, sexist, aggressive, or overtly offensive comments. Gerontological nurse practitioner. [–]Kyrias 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (11 children). haha! Instead of complaining about your competitors, take responsibility, move to Burns Lake and open a Family Practice, [–]plexxxy 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago* (26 children). Get your wreaths from Aunt Leah’s Tree Lots!! Welcome to Part 1 of our series on comparing the Nurse Practitioner (NP) to Physician Assistant (PA) profession in Canada with a focus of NP vs. PAs in Ontario.. Last updated February 1, 2019. I would be a bit better than the average joe due to my experience in healthcare but I would not know nearly enough to do the job well. They are an ever growing problem here for several reasons. I don't know how anyone, no matter how smart they are, can feel confident after just 792 hours. [–]-SetsunaFSeiei- 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child). I don’t think that NPs should get paid more, I just completely disagree with how you portray NPs. See my other comment. They do it because that's the system here where 5-10 minutes appointments are the norm. Honestly you seem like an upset, bitter and money-hungry doctor, you sure this is the right career for you? [–]Kyrias 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [+]Grizlet90 comment score below threshold-13 points-12 points-11 points 1 year ago (9 children). Trust me, doctors especially younger ones are passionate about comprehensive care. There are lots of nurses turned doctors. The average salary for a Nurse Practitioner (NP) in Canada is C$87,488. Why is that when we have the same number of doctors per population compared to the rest of the country? They make the best ones and are also Ernie approved ;), Cotton candy skies downtown at dawn yesterday, Dec 4th Covid-19 Update - Dr. Bonnie Henry says there are 711 new cases, total now of 36,132; 338 (+13) hospitalized of which 76 (-4) are in ICU; 9,050 (-53) active cases; 25,658 (+730) recovered; 11 additional deaths, total now of 492, “How can tens of thousands of owners who tell Revenue Canada they are low income (earning less than $44,000 a year) consistently afford homes valued in the $2- to $10-million range?”. I imagines it’s because many people had bad experience with their visits, but I don't think it’s the doctors that we should blame on. Why cannot these two professions help each other out instead of competing? The nursing focus is patient-focused and I hope that doctors would be too. If you are asking a question, please use a question mark at the end of your title. But I'm finding there is a growing number of them who way overestimate their training and bite off more than they can chew. Young people don't get a full medical and blood work "just because they would like it". Salary estimates are based on 947 salaries submitted anonymously to Indeed by Nurse Practitioner employees, users, and collected from past and present job advertisements on Indeed in the past 36 months. A nurse practitioner provides primary or specialty healthcare. [–]LocalBill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children). Rather than discussing why doctors should get paid more because they are valuable, you use an argument to degrade the work of NPs. Sounds good in principle but the province has essentially devalued family doctors by saying they are worth less than a nurse practitioner who have substantially less training than a family doctor does. If they are at most, only AS qualified, why are they getting paid more. Events that aren't posted in the Events Thread. ), Patient visits the office, checks in with reception staff, is taken to exam room and prepared for the visit. (Again, staff are all paid by the doctor. A more realistic gross for a GP in Vancouver is between 180 and 250 and then you can take 30-40% off that to cover business related expenses. [–]squirrelfriendzone 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (3 children). Please search before posting so we don't have ten copies of the same article. But it's not a replacement for the incredible level of rigour that residency and med school require. The national average salary for a Nurse Practitioner is $115,632 in Canada. I was home visiting family a while back and someone was telling me their daughter was a cardiology NP. There are much better ways in life to earn money. Rendered by PID 18142 on r2-app-0d5bb9c488f95a398 at 2020-12-05 14:33:37.816290+00:00 running a7f2daa country code: US. If you have an elderly or bariatric relative for example, you can get the public health NP to visit them at the home. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Especially for someone in a high COL urban centre like Vancouver. Seriously that's all they get $60,000 to have to work 12 hour shifts of not easy work in hazardous conditions and have gone through 4 years of post secondary. The salary for these contracts is between $175,000 to $200,000, that's very very handsome for a nurse. [–]catballoon 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (18 children). I'm fully aware that an NP can have an amazing impact on the health care system and I'm so glad they exist, but an MD has the training to do the diagnostic work. Trust me, i wish we could. 5) Nurse Researcher Average Salary: $95,000. And in UBC, they solely look at GPA for interview cut off. Salary definitely varies by region, but esp by specialty. EDIT: [–]fog-duckerReel Nice 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (3 children), [–]localfamilydoc[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (2 children). There’s a fundamental flaw in this province’s patient billing system. or is this just your personal take? Degree: MS - I'm an NP. Please only post if you have unanswered questions after that. Consider this excerpt from an article written on the problem with the fee-for-service model in our healthcare system. Like I said, I'm sure they know a lot, but they don't know what they don't know, and can be a very dangerous thing. [–]localfamilydoc[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago* (6 children). This includes concern trolling, random disparagement of NPs/nursing/education, or bringing up independent practice/education debates when that is not the topic at hand. It is being ignored, and it is the family doctor who's taking the reputation hit because of it. [–]plexxxy -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago* (3 children). 5. Clinic rent, electricity, medical tools, equipment, etc. his post history suggests he wrote the MCAT 5 years ago, went into nursing instead and just finished not long. his dream job as of 10 months ago is still to be a surgeon lol. [–]localfamilydoc[S] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago* (1 child). In comparison, those working in hospitals in Ontario, which make … We love Ask Me Anything sessions! If they work a full 5 day work week they may not start making money for themselves till their 3rd day (overheard is usually 30-40%). This is where you will find the latest info on the best of everything Vancouver has to offer. They practise in every province and territory and their numbers have almost doubled between 2003 and 2007. Tennessee: The average nurse practitioner salary in Tennessee is $93,970, only slightly lower than the national average income. Fourth year med student that's done some rotations with some doctors that have some NP's working under them in their clinic. I see the consequences almost daily inpatient. It’s sad to see so much doctor-hate going on in reddit. I don't know a single NP in Ontario (and I work with many) that makes less than 100K even as a new grad. I have no horse in the race, I don’t work in health care. Sounds like I triggered you. UBC's NP program is 56 credits with 792 hours of practicum including shadow shifts spread over 2 years. This is where you'll find everything you need to know about visiting Vancouver: the best places to check out, local attractions, local hangouts, cautions/warnings, and local treasures only Vancouverites know about. like what I have been paying for all these years, I have been here 6 years and never once utilized any medical services, I already paid $550 for my CT scan, because Dr. Dickhead didn't want to do anything. They would agree with you that the level of care could be way better and it is because of the way they are compensated. We are going to be stricter with the commentary we will tolerate on this sub for the time being, as we continue to see healthy discussions devolve into unnecessary debate and sniping. Have FNP, AG-ACNP, and ENP certs. It shouldn’t be one or the other. Is holding out for an NP job right now selfish? You should look up nursing theory which is taught in both nursing school and again in NP school. [–]localfamilydoc[S] 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (14 children). ), The doctor needs to write a detailed note in the patient's chart to document the visit. (This takes more time and computer costs. If you want a test without any indications that will in all likelihood give you a set of normal results, go down south to Bellingham and pay for it out of your own pocket, don’t use taxpayer money and an already incredibly stressed public healthcare system for it. 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